16 Nov 2009, 23:49
FinderPop 2.2.4b2 THRILLSEEKER BETA "One-handed-typist edition" is now available.
What's in:
* Huge swathes of code rewritten in Cocoa and Objective C.
* Contextual menu support in 64-bit Snow Leopard Finder mostly works.
Issue: sometimes FinderPop cannot get the item that you control-clicked in the Finder. In an attempt to work around this, I currently force the Finder to the front if you right-click or control-click a Finder element when the Finder is not frontmost. You probably won't even notice, but if this is disconcerting, you can disable it by:
defaults write com.finderpop.finderpop forceFinderFrontmost NO
Will try to fix this properly next week.
* All the usual Cmd/Opt/Ctrl modifiers while menu browsing, cursor changes appropriately, etc. Grab-and-dragging, trashing and killing process menu items, getting-info and everything else should work OK. Unfortunately I still haven't ported the FinderPop info ''help tag' windows: next week hopefully. Additionally, we now use the big system cursors for copying and deleting by default - if you prefer the old, smaller, FinderPop cursors:
defaults write com.finderpop.finderpop useSystemCursors NO
* Click-in-unused-menubar is a bit smarter about what constitutes "unused" menubar. That said, if you find that clicking in unused-menubar-space doesn't work for you, try turning off the Translucent Menu Bar option (System Preferences -> Desktop & Screen Saver -> Desktop tab -> "Translucent menu bars" option)
What's NOT in:
* Control-free-clicking
* Contextual Menu Support in non-Finder 64-bit apps
* FinderPop info help tag windows
Note that the menus popped up as a result of control-clicking in the unused menubar is handled by the old 32-bit finderpop-daemon so everything works as it used to there (although there's a drawing problem with labels in FP menus which I have to fix too.)
If you're installing this over a previous beta, you'll have to restart or logout for it to take effect. (Alternatively if your terminal skills are up to scratch, type killall finderpop-daemon and then open the newly-installed FinderPop prefPane which will cause the newly-installed daemon to start; any programs launched after this point will have the new FinderPop sauce added. Since the Finder will already have been patched using the previously installed version, you'll have to restart the Finder too, you can type killall Finder for that.)
--turly
I will eventually pull everything together into a 10.4/10.5/10.6-compatible release.
As usual, if there are any issues with this: http://www.fnarr.net/fp
17 Nov 2009, 00:48
Hi Turly!
Thanks so much for all of your hard work. So glad to hear that you are doing better. I just sent you a couple of pints to help with your healing!
17 Nov 2009, 01:00
Yes! This is a good thing.
So far, it works great. And much faster than FolderGlance. There will be some pints coming from the US.
-Harry
17 Nov 2009, 02:43
turly...if i had an extra hand, i'd give it to ya...
great job and thank you, thank you, thank you17 Nov 2009, 23:20
turly wrote:FinderPop 2.2.4b2 THRILLSEEKER BETA "One-handed-typist edition" is now available.
What's NOT in:
* Contextual Menu Support in non-Finder 64-bit apps
Something about the way you said that bent my brain... Do you mean: "Finder is the only 64 bit app with CMS" so far?
Thanks
17 Nov 2009, 23:39
Do you mean: "Finder is the only 64 bit app with CMS" so far?
That's correct - the Finder is currently the only 64-bit app where contextual menus are 'enhanced' by FinderPop.
All apps, 64-bit and 32-bit, can do the click-in-unused-menubar bit.
All 32-bit apps can have their contextual menus enhanced by FP.
18 Nov 2009, 00:13
I installed the FinderPop 2.2.4b2. Now when I click in the unused portion of the menu bar when the FinderPop menu comes up, and I hover over any one of the items in the menu, in the extreme lower left of the screen appears an image of the 'FinderPop Items' folder with the words
'Kind: Folder
Valence: 4
Created: A Date and Time
Modified: A Date and Time
Permissions: My Info'.
Is there a reason for this? I do not see how to prevent this from showing up.
18 Nov 2009, 09:38
Hey Ross... that is definitely a bug: that should not happen.
It sounds like the little "Help Tag" Info Window that's supposed to appear when you press command and option while hovering over an item in a FinderPop menu is broken in the Daemon. As this is code I heavily modified for the 64-bit Cocoa version it maybe isn't that surprising, but I've certainly not seen it happen... I'll have a look at this code tonight after work.
What happens if you press Command and Option together? The cursor should change into a circle-with-a-lowercase-i for 'info' and that window should appear immediately underneath the cursor with info on the item you've selected... Does it still appear way down there in the lower left corner? And when you let go of Cmd+Opt, the window should disappear completely...
18 Nov 2009, 13:09
This version is realy,realy great achievement !! The previous version operated only unusually when frankly saying.
But, Latest version is almost Release Candidate version. If this is a beta version, the final product becomes wonderful how much or it is not possible to imagine it in me.
With Huge love from Japan.
18 Nov 2009, 16:29
Hey Turley,
I am not seeing what Ross saw in his posting.
This, so far, is a very good beta.
Thanks for all the hard work; FP is just great!
Larry
18 Nov 2009, 23:45
I'm not seeing it either - running a MacBookPro with 10.6.2.
19 Nov 2009, 03:53
The Command + Option 'info' works perfectly like you explain.
On my regular Mac partition in the 'Other' System Preferences I have 'AutoPairs v3.0.3', Default Folder X v4.3.3', 'FinderPop v2.2.4b2', 'Flip4Mac WMV v2.3.0.14', iClock Pro v1.00rc4', 'Intego NetUpdate v10.5', 'Smart Scroll v3.4', 'Sounds4Fun v1.0.3', 'Typeit4Me v4.2', and 'Visage v2.4.2' installed.
I figured out what was causing the problem, if I turn off the 'Sounds4Fun v1.0.3' the problem goes away. So I would guess FinderPop and Sounds4Fun are interacting.
19 Nov 2009, 07:44
Hi :
Brilliant !
Really great to have FP at the right finger again !
There seems to be some interference with some keyboard shortcuts that I use (through iKey).
For instance i use ctrl-alt-cmd-M to get new mail and activate Mail.app. With FP installed, it opens
FP's recent application menu. This happens often, but not always.
I couldn't find ctrl-alt-cmd-M as a kb shortcut in FP ?
Thanks anyway,
Alain
19 Nov 2009, 10:06
Hmm, maybe I'm doing something silly capturing keystrokes... I'll have a look at this code tonight after work.
In any event, I found a couple of bugs so there'll definitely be a new beta soon...
20 Nov 2009, 23:37
Turly...
I hope you not in the 'Floods devastate UK Lake District, much of Ireland' article I read.
21 Nov 2009, 02:15
Yes, it works yet again! €10 pint money "paypalled". Your're the Man!
21 Nov 2009, 12:12
Ross wrote:I hope you're not in the 'Floods devastate UK Lake District, much of Ireland' article I read.
Well I mostly live in Barcelona now, but my home town of Cork (where I live the rest of the time) definitely got badly hit. Someone put together a youtube vid of some pics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEWqbWGS4tw
Many of the photos she used were taken from various posts here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost ... tcount=141
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost ... tcount=198
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost ... tcount=204
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost ... tcount=208
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost ... tcount=213
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost ... tcount=235
The problem stems from the fact that the city centre of Cork is basically built on a marsh - indeed the very name comes from the Irish word for 'swamp'. See this old map of Cork, ostensibly dating from 1545, and note the number of occurrences of the word 'marsh'... all of which is now built over. And most of which is today underwater...
22 Nov 2009, 17:58
Turly - Thanks for keeping us all up-to-date! I haven't the testicular fortitude to try the beta, but am waiting for an official release....and can't wait!
Good on you for putting so much time and effort into it - appreciate it very much!
23 Nov 2009, 23:05
turly wrote:Do you mean: "Finder is the only 64 bit app with CMS" so far?
That's correct - the Finder is currently the only 64-bit app where contextual menus are 'enhanced' by FinderPop.
All apps, 64-bit and 32-bit, can do the click-in-unused-menubar bit.
All 32-bit apps can have their contextual menus enhanced by FP.
When I do the click-in-unused-menubar bit lots of times nothing happens. Works in Finder, Mail, & iTunes, not in Safari, FileMaker Pro, or Parallels.
24 Nov 2009, 18:29
It's good to hear you're keeping your head above water Turly
Sadly, FP 2.2.4b2 doesn't work for me (and I feel a bit crippled without it.)
Non-Apple PrefPanes installed:
A Better Finder Rename
Logitech Control Center
FinderPop
FolderGlance (disabled)
iStat Menus
MenuMeters
Perian
Secrets
Also two login apps w/menulets: Meteorologist & Dropbox.
Current versions of all.
In my desperation to find an interim substitute for FP I installed FolderGlance and noticed that when it's activated FP works
Metta,
m
24 Nov 2009, 22:44
I've made a number of bugfixes - see the 2.2.4b3 announcement - can you give that a try and let me know how you get on? If you still have problems I'll have download the items you mention and see which one I'm not getting on with...
25 Nov 2009, 00:04
Near perfect!
The first time I invoked the "ToggleFileExtensionfsel-!!!" FinderPopExtra the Finder hung for several seconds until it popped up the dreaded "This is an Application downloaded from the Internet… " dialog.
I know how to disable that and it will only happen once for each release anyway, right?
Doesn't happen w/the rest of the Extras.
All in all, I'm near beside myself with gratitude.
Blessings be upon you Turly ^_^
Metta,
m