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| CrisBCT 29 Jan 2013, 08:25 | FP 2.4.6 has just looped...
Happy new year to you, Turly. I'm using FP 2.4.6 on Snow Leopard 10.6.8 in 64 bit mode on my 2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo with 8 gigs memory. [I wish Apple would reinstate Rosetta, then I could get up to date...] As I usually do, I clicked the unused menu bar, and then FP injector looped doing nothing. So I took a sample in Activity ~Monitor, and then Force Quit it. What else could I have done to make this report more informative? Would you prefer the three files in the zip separately? warm regards Cris ps the copyright line in System Prefs now needs updating...
Re: FP 2.4.6 has just looped...
Thanks Cris - that's a perfect sample you've given me, and that is one weird stack in the sample! Alas am up walls with real work at the moment (it's past midnight and I'm still working!) so will get on to this at the weekend. Presumably after you killed it, all was well again? You might also try updating to 2.4.7 beta ... the copyrights line in the prefpane is up-to-date  |
| CrisBCT 08 Aug 2012, 16:09 | Re: FinderPop 2.4.4
I'm currently using FP 2.4.1 and have passed on the beta versions since I'm still on Snow Leopard 10.6.8. My restart has just given me a FP notice (which won't copy) and a http://www.FinderPop.com button to click.
So I clicked on it and it gives the error message - Information // The forum you selected does not exist.
But I was actually planning to install the latest version... So I'll dig around to find how to do this. warm regards, Cris |
| CrisBCT 21 May 2011, 20:33 | Finderpop menu bar popup doesn't show files in right order
Hi, I find that my FinderPop menu popup doesn't necessarily show the items in the right order. I've shortened the folder in case that was the problem, but it still doesn't order them correctly. See: http://www.reducestressnow.net/filez/Fi ... .28.31.png Am I doing this right? What might be the problem? I run FinderPop 2.3.0 on my 2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo with 8 gigs memory with latest MacOSX Snow Leopard 10.6.7. I look forward to your response. Cris Saturday, 2011/05/21 |
| CrisBCT 01 Oct 2010, 20:45 | Re: FP doesn't expand folder although it's there
Hi Turly, Yes, this makes a lot of sense. Rebuilding a menu when there's an unresolved alias could indeed be a problem for some people. A simple solution could be to create an Option for this. Check to rebuild menus with unresolved aliases, uncheck to continue as currently... Hope you're enjoying your summer and autumn... |
| CrisBCT 19 Jul 2010, 15:55 | Re: FP doesn't expand folder although it's there
Hi Turly, That recent crash may be associated with this already reported problem. Here are two pngs taken at the same time. The earlier png shows a menu bar click with the numbers folder name in italics and so not expanded. See: Screen shot 2010-07-19 at 16.37.08.png The later png, an option click on the desktop, shows the same numbers folder expanded... Screen shot 2010-07-19 at 16.38.06.png Which, I believe, suggests there's probably something wrong somewhere. Shouldn't they both show the same - no matter where the click is made?
Re: FP doesn't expand folder although it's there
The menubar click popup menu is in an entirely separate application to the click-on-the-desktop - the former is in the FinderPop Daemon, and the latter is in the Finder. Both of them have separate caches. FP's caches work on a folder's modification time. When asked to display a menu corresponding to a particular folder, FinderPop looks to see if it already has one and that the folder modification date is the same as when the menu was built. So say we have no menus built and that your FinderPop Items folder contains a single alias... and at the time of making the menu, FinderPop finds that the alias is not resolvable, so it adds the alias to the menu in italics. If the alias is resolvable, then everything works as normal. The daemon runs at startup and so may have cached the menu when the alias was not resolvable. The Finder runs a bit later and the menu may only be built when you control-click, at which time your item has become available. Note that the fact that the item referred to by the alias becomes available at some later point in time does not change the modification date of the folder containing the original alias (and so I have no way of knowing that I should rebuild that menu.) It may be feasible to solve this as follows: if, when building a menu, I come across an unresolvable alias, I mark the menu as being valid only for this invocation of FinderPop. I.e., the next time FinderPop is invoked and wants to display that menu again, it is rebuilt from scratch. This might have bad repercussions if people have lots of unresolvable aliases, some of which never become available - this will cause FP to rebuild the correponding menu from scratch if it is required on following invocations of FinderPop... By way of a workaround, turning FinderPop off and on in the prefPane will cause all menus to be rebuilt next time... |
| CrisBCT 26 Jun 2010, 16:18 | Re: FP doesn't expand folder although it's there
I've just rebooted, and used the FinderPop unused menu bar drop-down to mount the BDI containing this folder from the numbers files ƒ alias. But even though it's just gone the the load process for me, FinderPop continues to show it in italics and not expand it. But when I navigate to it via the Desktop expanded menu, then it is NOT in italics and I can get to its contents. See FP does sees it via the Desktop expanded dropdown.png
In this png you can see it in italics at the top with no expansion, and also at the bottom left without italics and with expansion arrowhead... |
| CrisBCT 25 Jun 2010, 11:04 | Re: FP doesn't expand folder although it's there
Yes, it's really called "numbers files f alias" exactly. No suffixes. And I clicked on it to open the folder as shown in the png I attached. The folder is called "numbers files ƒ" exactly. And the alias in FP items file does work. Furthermore, if the BDI is not up, then it asks for the password and then loads it which is exactly what I want. When I right click a file in the Finder, and right click in an unused area on the desktop, it shows expanded for both. I went to the Prefpane, turned FP off and then back on. And now it does show expanded when I click in unused menu bar. I would imagine FP builds its menus when the Mac is booted, which suggests that it would never have this folder up to start with since it's on a removable disk (BDI) which is only mounted later when I need it. But this used to work most all the time, I believe. And since my BDI usually stays loaded, shouldn't it have had the same issue back then? Now I'm left wondering how come it used to work, and why this problem is surfacing now... fyi, sometimes I go to a regular file in the FP items menu, and nothing happens, it just doesn't load as it should. So, on reflection, this might be a related problem.. But since regular files are not on the BDI, and don't show in italics, perhaps it's different? |
| CrisBCT 24 Jun 2010, 21:13 | FP doesn't expand folder although it's there
This is a rather recent problem, perhaps a couple of months. I have many folder aliases in my FinderPop Menu items list. All except one reliably expand to show their contents when selected. I use mostly a click in unused menu bar feature. But one folder - numbers files alias - is reported in italics and does NOT show its contents even when the removable disk (BDI) it's on is mounted. Expansion used to work reliably, but not for a while now. Sometimes it's in regular type and does expand, but not very often. I haven't been able to see any pattern to when FinderPop expands it and when it doesn't. I've just moved to 10.6.4, but that has not solved the problem How can I help debug you this problem?
Re: FP doesn't expand folder although it's there
Hmm. So the alias file is really called "numbers files f alias" exactly? You don't have any funky FinderPop "---x" suffixes? And the alias really does work? Does the alias show up expanded when you right-click a file in the Finder? (The menubar popups are handled by the FinderPop daemon which starts early and builds its menus early too...) Could it be that the disk it's on wasn't mounted at the time FinderPop built its menus? An easy way to check this would be to force FP to rebuild it's menus. Either go to the prefPane and turn FP off and then back on, or open up the FinderPop Items folder and create a new folder there, and then immediately delete it (Command-Shift-N, Command-Delete) - this will cause the modification time of the FinderPop Items folder to be changed, and FP will rebuild its menus for the folder the next time it's invoked. FP will print something to the Console (Applications -> Utiltities->Console.app) if it finds something funky while scanning files. (But an unfollowable alias isn't considered 'funky' IIRC.) |
| CrisBCT 22 May 2010, 12:30 | How do I put Processes and Recent first in FP popup
FinderPop is proving very useful, and now I would like to explore using it for application switching regularly. I usually have a dozen apps open at any one time and latest Snow 10.6.3 is often slow switching to another app, eg from Safari using Quickeys. So is there a way to put the Processes and Recent in the blank menu-bar FP popup menu at the top rather than the bottom. I've just read the 220 manual, and can't find how to do this there. Okay, not read, but I did look for around five minutes... And is there a way to get the recently opened items showing as a sub-menu off an application in the Processes list? I mean in the same way that FP shows the contents of a folder and folder alias, this feature is sooo useful. Thanks, Cris and thanks for your feedback about auto-update. much appreciated. |
| CrisBCT 22 May 2010, 10:53 | "check for updates every few days" not been working
Great to see a new version.  I have been using FP226 and, when I checked into this forum, I found this new version. Yet I have "check for updates every few days" ticked in the PrefPane > Etc. And it's still checked. This suggests that, at least until 2.2.6, this wasn't working on my Snow Leopard 10.6.3 Intel Mac Mini. On reflection, I don't think that this facility has ever worked for me in FinderPop. I'll see if it updates next time when 2.3.0 is fully released... warm regards, Cris |
| CrisBCT 27 Apr 2010, 09:31 | Re: FinderPop not working with latest Nisus Writer Pro 1.4.1
Thanks, Turly, I've now turned off menubar translucency, and NWP is back working again! As for the rest, Eudora 6.2.4 doesn't work, but that's an OS9 application. The others that I've tried all seem fine. |
| CrisBCT 24 Apr 2010, 11:03 | FinderPop not working with latest Nisus Writer Pro 1.4.1
FinderPop click in unused menu bar used to work fine with Nisus Writer 1.4. But I’ve just installed their latest version 1.4.1, with some 64 bit elements. And Finderpop no longer gives me the popup menu when clicking in the unused menu bar... I’m using 10.6.3. FinderPop 2.2.6 was installed 2010/04/09, and some of these messages say FP-beta i386, and some say FP-beta-x86_64. I’ve just checked in Console, as you suggested for another query, and it says: 10/04/23 12:08:42 Nisus Writer Pro[154] *** WARNING: Method selectedRowEnumerator in class NTAutoscrollingTableView is deprecated. It will be removed in a future release and should no longer be used. 10/04/23 12:25:27 [0x0-0x16016].com.finderpop.fp-injector[158] FinderPop-beta-i386-22601: Patching 'Nisus Writer Pro' 0:196196 (CF-c) 10/04/23 12:25:42 Nisus Writer Pro[6832] NSLanguage is private and deprecated. This class will be removed in a future release. 10/04/23 13:30:13 SubmitDiagInfo[6911] Removed expired file /Users/G4/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Eudora_2010-04-09-132443_Macintosh.crash 10/04/23 13:53:04 [0x0-0x16016].com.finderpop.fp-injector[158] FinderPop-beta-i386-22601: Patching 'Nisus Writer Pro' 0:1a41a4 (CF-c) 10/04/23 13:54:28 Safari[231] *** -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (4294967295) beyond bounds (2) … 10/04/24 11:54:24 [0x0-0x25025].AdWords Editor[234] NOW SNOOZE 10/04/24 11:54:25 [0x0-0x15015].com.finderpop.fp-injector[158] FinderPop-beta-x86_64-22601: Patching 'Console' 0:69069 (CF-c) Can you suggest a work around for this problem? |
| CrisBCT 12 Feb 2010, 16:45 | Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
Hi Turly, Sorry this reply took so long! Thanks for beta 7. I've only just thought to check the forum to see it there, and have now downloaded it. I didn't get an email saying there's a new reply to my post. And although I have FP set to check for new releases, it did NOT tell me about b7... I've just checked my Control Panel settings, and my default was for me NOT to be emailed when there's a reply to a post. So I've now fixed this, but it might make more sense to enable this by default, and then let a user turn it off... My Quickeys Open for the Address Book now seems to be working great. I'll let you know if any peculiarities show up... Just love your technical term - knickers in a twist! Thanks for all your great work here Cris ps. May I make a suggestion? Snow Leopard support would seem to be more than trivial. But 2.2.4 is the latest Leopard release, and yet these betas are still 2.2.4. … The complexity would suggest that the version number might become version 3.0. Or at least 2.3. |
| CrisBCT 21 Jan 2010, 14:55 | More compatibility problmes with FinderPop
In my Address Book, I've just tried command-delete to delete a card. But FP has intercepted this and given me the FP menu of my active applications instead. But that function surely should be switched off, if I have my FP settings correctly. Which suggests that FP has both settings as well as compatibility problems in my environment. See: FP.s.1.4 FP intercepting command-delete in Address Book.png
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| CrisBCT 21 Jan 2010, 14:28 | Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
Thanks for the suggestion. I checked my Quickey macro, and it was doing a double click in the search box in the Address Book window. This I thought might be upsetting QK, even though this was on the dektop NOT in the unused menu-bar. So I have amended my QK macro not to do any clicks, it's now: 1 switch to application Address Book. 2 wait for application Address Book 3 select Address Book in menu Window 4 type command-F 5 type keystroke delete. Yet typing the Address Book short-cut did still bring up the same Finderpop menu. It is doing it less frequently, but it's still doing it. See above png - FP.s.1.1 I wrongly get this.png I haven't unchecked "Click-in-unused-menubar" because that's the only FP function I want for now - at least until I can see that FP is compatible with my other software... How can I stop FP doing anything else than giving me the very useful functionality of FP just opening my menubar items folder? And nothing else. Is this what my FinderPop settings are giving me? see FP settings png below: If so, it seems curious that I am getting this anomaly when I have the desktop sub-menu UNchecked and I am NOT in the unused menubar.
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| CrisBCT 07 Jan 2010, 20:57 | Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
No, my QuickKey macro is just an open application window Qkey. None of my many QK macros click in the menu bar, or indeed use the menu bar in any way. This one is activated just by Command Option Control A... How can I stop FP doing anything else than giving me the very useful functionality of FP just opening my menubar items folder? And nothing else. |
| CrisBCT 07 Jan 2010, 08:57 | My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
I'm new to FinderPop, so this problem may be my inexperience with FP2.2.4b6 in Snow Leopard. I am a long time user of Quickeys. And I find that FP sometimes intercepts my Quickey Command Option Control A which is set to open my Address Book. But not always, See the two pngs: FP.s.1.1 I wrongly get this.png FP.s.1.2 when I only want my address book.png Both were obtained by Command Option Control A in the Finder. Is this a bug in FP? For now, I just want the very useful functionality of FP just opening my menubar items folder. I've tried unchecking most options in Prefs, but FP still often does this unwanted behaviour. So how can I restrict FP to just opening my menubar items, and doing nothing else at all.
Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
Is your QuickKey macro "clicking" in an unused portion of the menubar? Because that's what it looks like. I think someone else had this problem. |
| CrisBCT 03 Dec 2009, 13:31 | FInderPop 2.2 refuses to install in 10.5.8
Hi, I want to try FinderPop on my new Intel Mac Mini running 10.5.8. So I downloaded the recommended version, 2.2. Is this the latest for Leopard? it's dated 2009/02... But FinderPop refuses to install, saying "an error has occurred", see [img][/img] FP install fails.png Yet a forum search gives nothing about won't install... What am I doing wrong. The png shows some of the other utilities that I have, Quickeys, Windowshade, Flip4Mac (for sound WMA files). Microsoft mouse for my five-button optical mouse.. and Little Snitch. Help!
Re: FInderPop 2.2 refuses to install in 10.5.8
That's a weird alert. That alert is not put up by FinderPop and looks like it comes from the system, but it says "the FinderPop preferences pane" instead of the official title "preference pane" like the dialog below it (note the extra 's'.) Does it matter whether you choose "Install for all users" or "install for just you"? Sometimes error information will appear in Console.app - it might be worth opening /Applications/Utilities/Console.app and seeing what appears when you try to install FinderPop... The best version of FP to run on 10.4 and 10.5 is 2.2.1 beta1 -- see viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30 (It has a couple of thousand users and no-one's complained much so far... plus it's more compatible with the 10.5.8 Finder than the official 2.2 release.) |
