My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop

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CrisBCT 07 Jan 2010, 08:57	My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop I'm new to FinderPop, so this problem may be my inexperience with FP2.2.4b6 in Snow Leopard. I am a long time user of Quickeys. And I find that FP sometimes intercepts my Quickey Command Option Control A which is set to open my Address Book. But not always, See the two pngs: FP.s.1.1 I wrongly get this.png FP.s.1.2 when I only want my address book.png Both were obtained by Command Option Control A in the Finder. Is this a bug in FP? For now, I just want the very useful functionality of FP just opening my menubar items folder. I've tried unchecking most options in Prefs, but FP still often does this unwanted behaviour. So how can I restrict FP to just opening my menubar items, and doing nothing else at all. Attachments This is what I should get when I use my QK Command Option Control A to open my Address Book FP.s.1.2 when I only want my address book.png (118.23 KiB) Viewed 5740 times This comes intermittently when I use my QK Command Option Control A to open my Address Book FP.s.1.1 I wrongly get this.png (64.98 KiB) Viewed 5739 times CrisBCT Posts: 18 Joined: 03 Dec 2009, 10:25 Top Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop by turly » 07 Jan 2010, 13:27 Is your QuickKey macro "clicking" in an unused portion of the menubar? Because that's what it looks like. I think someone else had this problem.
CrisBCT 07 Jan 2010, 20:57	Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop No, my QuickKey macro is just an open application window Qkey. None of my many QK macros click in the menu bar, or indeed use the menu bar in any way. This one is activated just by Command Option Control A... How can I stop FP doing anything else than giving me the very useful functionality of FP just opening my menubar items folder? And nothing else.
turly 08 Jan 2010, 16:18	Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop If you turn off "Click-in-unused-menubar", does the problem happen? If so, I am fairly sure that QK is - behind the scenes - posting a mousedown event that fools FinderPop into thinking that a click-in-unused-menubar has occurred. I will have to wait until I'm back at my Mac next week before I can investigate this. (Currently freezing the proverbials off here in Ireland.)
CrisBCT 21 Jan 2010, 14:28	Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop Thanks for the suggestion. I checked my Quickey macro, and it was doing a double click in the search box in the Address Book window. This I thought might be upsetting QK, even though this was on the dektop NOT in the unused menu-bar. So I have amended my QK macro not to do any clicks, it's now: 1 switch to application Address Book. 2 wait for application Address Book 3 select Address Book in menu Window 4 type command-F 5 type keystroke delete. Yet typing the Address Book short-cut did still bring up the same Finderpop menu. It is doing it less frequently, but it's still doing it. See above png - FP.s.1.1 I wrongly get this.png I haven't unchecked "Click-in-unused-menubar" because that's the only FP function I want for now - at least until I can see that FP is compatible with my other software... How can I stop FP doing anything else than giving me the very useful functionality of FP just opening my menubar items folder? And nothing else. Is this what my FinderPop settings are giving me? see FP settings png below: If so, it seems curious that I am getting this anomaly when I have the desktop sub-menu UNchecked and I am NOT in the unused menubar. FP.s.1.3 my FP options settings.png (98.65 KiB) Viewed 5601 times
CrisBCT 21 Jan 2010, 14:55	More compatibility problmes with FinderPop In my Address Book, I've just tried command-delete to delete a card. But FP has intercepted this and given me the FP menu of my active applications instead. But that function surely should be switched off, if I have my FP settings correctly. Which suggests that FP has both settings as well as compatibility problems in my environment. See: FP.s.1.4 FP intercepting command-delete in Address Book.png FP.s.1.4 FP intercepting command-delete in Address Book.png (111.42 KiB) Viewed 5602 times
RonaldPR 21 Jan 2010, 20:26	Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop The "Options" are extras. With all options disabled, you will still have the FinderPop menu in contextual menus. In other words: Only checking "Clicking in unused menubar area invokes FinderPop" does not activate only that feature, it adds that feature. With everything disabled, also in Appearance and Active tabs, you will still have the FinderPop menu in Finder contextual menus, like on the desktop, which is the basic feature of FinderPop. With the processes submenu disabled, the processes submenu will still appear when command-clicking in the menubar. Enabling that option will make the processes submenu appear always in the FinderPop menu. It looks as if this command-delete in Address Book is sometimes interpreted by FinderPop as a command click in an unused portion of the menubar. Again a keystroke that is seen as clicking in the menubar. Strange.
turly 22 Jan 2010, 10:00	Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop OK, I finally have a free weekend to look at all these issues. Will keep yez posted!
turly 24 Jan 2010, 23:43	Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop Hey CrisBCT - please give 2.2.4b7 a try. I downloaded and installed QuickKeys. It turns out that if your QK macros involve menu items (like yours did - the Windows menu for example) then FP could sometimes get its knickers in a twist (to use a technical term) and think that you'd clicked in an unused portion of the menubar... Should be fixed in 224b7. Let me know if there are any further issues. I won't announce 224b7 publicly until tomorrow in case there's some more stuff I need to fix.
CrisBCT 12 Feb 2010, 16:45	Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop turly wrote:Hey CrisBCT - please give 2.2.4b7 a try. Hi Turly, Sorry this reply took so long! Thanks for beta 7. I've only just thought to check the forum to see it there, and have now downloaded it. I didn't get an email saying there's a new reply to my post. And although I have FP set to check for new releases, it did NOT tell me about b7... I've just checked my Control Panel settings, and my default was for me NOT to be emailed when there's a reply to a post. So I've now fixed this, but it might make more sense to enable this by default, and then let a user turn it off... My Quickeys Open for the Address Book now seems to be working great. I'll let you know if any peculiarities show up... Just love your technical term - knickers in a twist! Thanks for all your great work here Cris ps. May I make a suggestion? Snow Leopard support would seem to be more than trivial. But 2.2.4 is the latest Leopard release, and yet these betas are still 2.2.4. … The complexity would suggest that the version number might become version 3.0. Or at least 2.3.
RonaldPR 12 Feb 2010, 17:06	Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop CrisBCT wrote:And although I have FP set to check for new releases, it did NOT tell me about b7... There was no new release. A beta version is not a release version. But 2.2.4 is the latest Leopard release, and yet these betas are still 2.2.4. The latest release version is 2.2. The latest version for Leopard is 2.2.1 beta1.
RonaldPR 12 Feb 2010, 17:11	Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop CrisBCT wrote:I've just checked my Control Panel settings, and my default was for me NOT to be emailed when there's a reply to a post. So I've now fixed this, but it might make more sense to enable this by default, and then let a user turn it off... I am active in many forums and none are set to send email when there is a reply by default.

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CrisBCT
07 Jan 2010, 08:57

My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
I'm new to FinderPop, so this problem may be my inexperience with FP2.2.4b6 in Snow Leopard.

I am a long time user of Quickeys. And I find that FP sometimes intercepts my Quickey Command Option Control A which is set to open my Address Book. But not always, See the two pngs:

FP.s.1.1 I wrongly get this.png
FP.s.1.2 when I only want my address book.png

Both were obtained by Command Option Control A in the Finder. Is this a bug in FP?

For now, I just want the very useful functionality of FP just opening my menubar items folder.

I've tried unchecking most options in Prefs, but FP still often does this unwanted behaviour.

So how can I restrict FP to just opening my menubar items, and doing nothing else at all.

Attachments

: This is what I should get when I use my QK Command Option Control A to open my Address Book; FP.s.1.2 when I only want my address book.png (118.23 KiB) Viewed 5740 times

: This comes intermittently when I use my QK Command Option Control A to open my Address Book; FP.s.1.1 I wrongly get this.png (64.98 KiB) Viewed 5739 times

CrisBCT: Posts: 18; Joined: 03 Dec 2009, 10:25

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Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop

by turly » 07 Jan 2010, 13:27

Is your QuickKey macro "clicking" in an unused portion of the menubar? Because that's what it looks like. I think someone else had this problem.

CrisBCT
07 Jan 2010, 20:57

Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
No, my QuickKey macro is just an open application window Qkey. None of my many QK macros click in the menu bar, or indeed use the menu bar in any way.

This one is activated just by Command Option Control A...

How can I stop FP doing anything else than giving me the very useful functionality of FP just opening my menubar items folder? And nothing else.

turly
08 Jan 2010, 16:18

Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
If you turn off "Click-in-unused-menubar", does the problem happen?

If so, I am fairly sure that QK is - behind the scenes - posting a mousedown event that fools FinderPop into thinking that a click-in-unused-menubar has occurred.
I will have to wait until I'm back at my Mac next week before I can investigate this. (Currently freezing the proverbials off here in Ireland.)

CrisBCT
21 Jan 2010, 14:28

Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
Thanks for the suggestion. I checked my Quickey macro, and it was doing a double click in the search box in the Address Book window. This I thought might be upsetting QK, even though this was on the dektop NOT in the unused menu-bar. So I have amended my QK macro not to do any clicks, it's now:

1 switch to application Address Book.
2 wait for application Address Book
3 select Address Book in menu Window
4 type command-F
5 type keystroke delete.

Yet typing the Address Book short-cut did still bring up the same Finderpop menu. It is doing it less frequently, but it's still doing it. See above png - FP.s.1.1 I wrongly get this.png

I haven't unchecked "Click-in-unused-menubar" because that's the only FP function I want for now - at least until I can see that FP is compatible with my other software...

How can I stop FP doing anything else than giving me the very useful functionality of FP just opening my menubar items folder? And nothing else. Is this what my FinderPop settings are giving me? see FP settings png below:

If so, it seems curious that I am getting this anomaly when I have the desktop sub-menu UNchecked and I am NOT in the unused menubar.

: FP.s.1.3 my FP options settings.png (98.65 KiB) Viewed 5601 times

CrisBCT
21 Jan 2010, 14:55

More compatibility problmes with FinderPop
In my Address Book, I've just tried command-delete to delete a card. But FP has intercepted this and given me the FP menu of my active applications instead. But that function surely should be switched off, if I have my FP settings correctly. Which suggests that FP has both settings as well as compatibility problems in my environment. See:

FP.s.1.4 FP intercepting command-delete in Address Book.png

: FP.s.1.4 FP intercepting command-delete in Address Book.png (111.42 KiB) Viewed 5602 times

RonaldPR
21 Jan 2010, 20:26

Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
The "Options" are extras. With all options disabled, you will still have the FinderPop menu in contextual menus. In other words: Only checking "Clicking in unused menubar area invokes FinderPop" does not activate only that feature, it adds that feature. With everything disabled, also in Appearance and Active tabs, you will still have the FinderPop menu in Finder contextual menus, like on the desktop, which is the basic feature of FinderPop.

With the processes submenu disabled, the processes submenu will still appear when command-clicking in the menubar. Enabling that option will make the processes submenu appear always in the FinderPop menu. It looks as if this command-delete in Address Book is sometimes interpreted by FinderPop as a command click in an unused portion of the menubar. Again a keystroke that is seen as clicking in the menubar. Strange.

turly
22 Jan 2010, 10:00

Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
OK, I finally have a free weekend to look at all these issues. Will keep yez posted!

turly
24 Jan 2010, 23:43

Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop
Hey CrisBCT - please give 2.2.4b7 a try.

I downloaded and installed QuickKeys. It turns out that if your QK macros involve menu items (like yours did - the Windows menu for example) then FP could sometimes get its knickers in a twist (to use a technical term) and think that you'd clicked in an unused portion of the menubar...

Should be fixed in 224b7. Let me know if there are any further issues.

I won't announce 224b7 publicly until tomorrow in case there's some more stuff I need to fix.

CrisBCT
12 Feb 2010, 16:45

Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop

turly wrote:Hey CrisBCT - please give 2.2.4b7 a try.

Hi Turly, Sorry this reply took so long!

Thanks for beta 7. I've only just thought to check the forum to see it there, and have now downloaded it. I didn't get an email saying there's a new reply to my post. And although I have FP set to check for new releases, it did NOT tell me about b7...

I've just checked my Control Panel settings, and my default was for me NOT to be emailed when there's a reply to a post. So I've now fixed this, but it might make more sense to enable this by default, and then let a user turn it off...

My Quickeys Open for the Address Book now seems to be working great. I'll let you know if any peculiarities show up...

Just love your technical term - knickers in a twist! :-)

Thanks for all your great work here
Cris

ps. May I make a suggestion? Snow Leopard support would seem to be more than trivial. But 2.2.4 is the latest Leopard release, and yet these betas are still 2.2.4. … The complexity would suggest that the version number might become version 3.0. Or at least 2.3.

RonaldPR
12 Feb 2010, 17:06

Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop

CrisBCT wrote:And although I have FP set to check for new releases, it did NOT tell me about b7...

There was no new release. A beta version is not a release version.

But 2.2.4 is the latest Leopard release, and yet these betas are still 2.2.4.

The latest release version is 2.2. The latest version for Leopard is 2.2.1 beta1.

RonaldPR
12 Feb 2010, 17:11

Re: My Quickey Command is sometimes intercepted by FinderPop

CrisBCT wrote:I've just checked my Control Panel settings, and my default was for me NOT to be emailed when there's a reply to a post. So I've now fixed this, but it might make more sense to enable this by default, and then let a user turn it off...

I am active in many forums and none are set to send email when there is a reply by default.